‘Nowhere to hide, NSA owns the network’ on the entire planet. ( RT ).
RT: You talked about a moral standard that has to be
set. What is that standard and how do you go about setting it?
WB: Fundamentally it boils down to the respects of the rights of others and their rights to privacy and their right to be left alone. That is the foundation of our constitution that says that they have the right of free association, and due process and privacy. And the right not be testifying against themselves. Those are all the rights of part of the respective people as individuals.
RT: Is there any way we can have a truly clear view on the extent and the scope of the spying the NSA carried out?
WB: Well, I mean, you can take a look at the storage facilities they are building to get an idea of how much they are taking in, like a million square foot storage facility in Bluffdale, Utah; another 600,000 square foot facility they are starting to build, they started last summer in Fort Meade, around Fort Meade. And then 400,000 square foot facility they have down in San Antonio; and other storage that they had existing all along at Ft. Meade as well as other facilities around the world.
I mean if you see the storage that they are bringing online, you can say they are really collecting awful lot of information. So my estimate is in zettabyte category of collection. Cisco did the estimate, Cisco they do the routers, I guess they sold the routers to NS, so they did an estimate that in Bluffdale they felt that it was very likely that they were ingesting on the order of 966 exabytes a year, by 2015. Which means that zettabyte a year goes into Bluffdale alone if you accept their estimate.
Its billions, and billions, and billions, and billions, and billions – it is a lot of data. By the way if they made a breakthrough in quantum storage, then zettabytes are not enough, then yotabytes aren’t either. So we have to get a new term, and I have been advocating the next term should be “alotofbytes”, something like that, or a “bunchofbytes”, something to be humorous about it, you know.
RT: How closely were the Germans involved with the NSA in spying on the German people?
WB: Well, I do not know that they did that, I don’t know they spied on the German people. I have no first-hand knowledge of that at all. I do know that they are looking at the internet.
That is the problem I tried to get them interested in doing and I think they have adopted some of that but how much they are doing, I do not know.
RT: What are the biggest threats that the NSA caused to people here in Germany?
WB: The fact that they have all the data, they are basically collecting, they own the network fundamentally the way that I view it from all the exposures that have been published by Edward Snowden's leaks. It looks very much to me that they own the entire network anywhere in the world. With implants in the order of 50,000+, and with the taps in the fiber lines and collaborative efforts with companies and other agencies, well it seems to me that they simply own the network. So the point is around the world no one has any privacy. There is nowhere to hide.
RT: And what is the danger of that for the private individual?
WB: The danger is you can't really say, I'm not doing anything wrong so I have nothing to fear, right? Because that is irrelevant. What the individual thinks is irrelevant. Only what the government thinks and what their perspective that individual and what they are doing is relevant. Plus I would add that is a good quote from Joseph Goebbels.Read the full story here.
WB: Fundamentally it boils down to the respects of the rights of others and their rights to privacy and their right to be left alone. That is the foundation of our constitution that says that they have the right of free association, and due process and privacy. And the right not be testifying against themselves. Those are all the rights of part of the respective people as individuals.
RT: Is there any way we can have a truly clear view on the extent and the scope of the spying the NSA carried out?
WB: Well, I mean, you can take a look at the storage facilities they are building to get an idea of how much they are taking in, like a million square foot storage facility in Bluffdale, Utah; another 600,000 square foot facility they are starting to build, they started last summer in Fort Meade, around Fort Meade. And then 400,000 square foot facility they have down in San Antonio; and other storage that they had existing all along at Ft. Meade as well as other facilities around the world.
I mean if you see the storage that they are bringing online, you can say they are really collecting awful lot of information. So my estimate is in zettabyte category of collection. Cisco did the estimate, Cisco they do the routers, I guess they sold the routers to NS, so they did an estimate that in Bluffdale they felt that it was very likely that they were ingesting on the order of 966 exabytes a year, by 2015. Which means that zettabyte a year goes into Bluffdale alone if you accept their estimate.
Its billions, and billions, and billions, and billions, and billions – it is a lot of data. By the way if they made a breakthrough in quantum storage, then zettabytes are not enough, then yotabytes aren’t either. So we have to get a new term, and I have been advocating the next term should be “alotofbytes”, something like that, or a “bunchofbytes”, something to be humorous about it, you know.
RT: How closely were the Germans involved with the NSA in spying on the German people?
WB: Well, I do not know that they did that, I don’t know they spied on the German people. I have no first-hand knowledge of that at all. I do know that they are looking at the internet.
That is the problem I tried to get them interested in doing and I think they have adopted some of that but how much they are doing, I do not know.
RT: What are the biggest threats that the NSA caused to people here in Germany?
WB: The fact that they have all the data, they are basically collecting, they own the network fundamentally the way that I view it from all the exposures that have been published by Edward Snowden's leaks. It looks very much to me that they own the entire network anywhere in the world. With implants in the order of 50,000+, and with the taps in the fiber lines and collaborative efforts with companies and other agencies, well it seems to me that they simply own the network. So the point is around the world no one has any privacy. There is nowhere to hide.
RT: And what is the danger of that for the private individual?
WB: The danger is you can't really say, I'm not doing anything wrong so I have nothing to fear, right? Because that is irrelevant. What the individual thinks is irrelevant. Only what the government thinks and what their perspective that individual and what they are doing is relevant. Plus I would add that is a good quote from Joseph Goebbels.Read the full story here.
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